I find out it unknown as a permaculture person that sometimes the skillful hoi polloi to get advice from are people doing everything the conventional path . Mostly , in my idea they are doing things the wrong way but they have done it long enough that they even get things proper .
I replied :
Sometimes it ’s useful , since they are n’t be in the theoretical . If they do n’t get fruit , they go out of business .

Think about it .
If most suburban gardeners embed a garden that does n’t do well , so what ? They just write it off as a departure and visit the grocery store for their beans and pelf .
If you are into permaculture and you plant a food woods that piddle you happy but does n’t get you much in yield , expectant – you ’ve bring a coolheaded spare-time activity .
But if your livelihood relies on getting a well crop , everything exchange . You ca n’t afford to be theoretical , or laissez - faire in your approach . You ca n’t be super committed to a philosophy that does n’t bering contiguous termination . You need heavy information and uniform yields . This is how land works . So if you are told to acquire GMO corn , and space it like this , and spray it with that , and fertilise it with that , and you ’ll get _ _ _ _ _ bushel of Indian corn per acre , because the scientist at the extension said so – and that corn is blend in to ensure you may pay your mortgage – you do n’t go testing out landraces or visit if you may establish a intellectual nourishment woods with corn in it .
If you keep what commercial-grade cultivator do , and then reject some of it in ordination to align advantageously with your values , you will get expert at gardening .
They have tegument in the game . Theoreticians do n’t .
If your livelihood hangs on your production of intellectual nourishment , you ’ll definitely learn fast and endeavor to get better margins . They get things correct ( at least in terms of yield ) because they have to .
Modern farmer get results . However , I would much opt to see them get consequence without spraying pesticide and herbicides . There is a balance that necessitate to be hit .
If you go too far into what you “ bid ” the world was like , rather of what it ’s actually like , you do n’t get anything . I ’ve encountered many ideologues of this type in my years of garden writing . I ’ve also encountered people that claim all the concerns about the surroundings , factory farming , etc . , are just “ libtard talking full stop . ”
It ’s all a equilibrium . We should be estimable stewards of the grunge God gave us to be given , and we should also commend that feeding people is very authoritative . Where you fall on the spectrum of practical vs. theoretical may vary . We ’ve sample to keep a balance in our gardens , but we also realize we are n’t trying to feed an total town . We ’re also not totally committed to a philosophy of let nature be , since if we did that , we ’d famish .
Learn what you could from who you could , then cast away what does n’t go for you .